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        "text": "Before Smith, Wiener, and Higginson, Circuit Judges.",
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        "text": "Starbucks stores underwent a flurry of union organizing activity in",
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        "text": "2022. This case arises from one such attempt where Starbucks employees",
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        "text": "Board (“NLRB” or “Board”) tells it, what ensued was a campaign of coer-",
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        "text": "June 23, 2026",
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        "text": "Lyle W. Cayce",
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        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 1 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
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        "text": "The Board found that Starbucks, through managers Tiffany Fuller and",
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      },
      {
        "text": "the unionized representative to argue whether or not we would get those",
        "paragraph_id": "para_55"
      },
      {
        "text": "[benefits].” Sosa also stated that Fuller claimed that the new benefits",
        "paragraph_id": "para_56"
      },
      {
        "text": "“would be either added on, or not, based on if the Union representative",
        "paragraph_id": "para_57"
      },
      {
        "text": "would argue for that.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_58"
      },
      {
        "text": "B. Ramirez",
        "paragraph_id": "para_59"
      },
      {
        "text": "Fuller spoke to Ramirez, the employee who had requested an election",
        "paragraph_id": "para_60"
      },
      {
        "text": "on union representation, and stated that Fuller was opposed to unionizing",
        "paragraph_id": "para_61"
      },
      {
        "text": "because of the “risks that she believed we [partners] would lose benefits.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_62"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 2 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_63"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_64"
      },
      {
        "text": "3",
        "paragraph_id": "para_65"
      },
      {
        "text": "Specifically, she said she was concerned about losing access to free tuition to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_66",
        "court_paragraph": 3
      },
      {
        "text": "Arizona State University and health benefits through union negotiations.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_67"
      },
      {
        "text": "C. Pichardo",
        "paragraph_id": "para_68"
      },
      {
        "text": "Pichardo had a conversation with Fuller and Tayarah in which",
        "paragraph_id": "para_69"
      },
      {
        "text": "Pichardo asked them about their views on unionization. Before that conver-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_70"
      },
      {
        "text": "sation, Pichardo had discussed unionization with Fuller on four occasions. In",
        "paragraph_id": "para_71"
      },
      {
        "text": "the meeting with Tayarah and Fuller, Tayarah told Pichardo that unionizing",
        "paragraph_id": "para_72"
      },
      {
        "text": "the store “wouldn’t change the world” and that “the Union wouldn’t",
        "paragraph_id": "para_73"
      },
      {
        "text": "change better working conditions for [Pichardo].” Tayarah then stated that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_74"
      },
      {
        "text": "she understood why In-N-Out should unionize but not why Starbucks would.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_75"
      },
      {
        "text": "When Pichardo asked for better wages and working conditions, Tayarah told",
        "paragraph_id": "para_76"
      },
      {
        "text": "her “there are other jobs that do offer better pay.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_77"
      },
      {
        "text": "D. Untaran",
        "paragraph_id": "para_78"
      },
      {
        "text": "1.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_79"
      },
      {
        "text": "Fuller had a one-on-one meeting with Untaran on June 22 in the back",
        "paragraph_id": "para_80"
      },
      {
        "text": "of the house, where she asked him “how [he] felt about unionization.” Fuller",
        "paragraph_id": "para_81"
      },
      {
        "text": "did not know about Untaran’s views of the union at the time. Untaran re-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_82"
      },
      {
        "text": "sponded by stating that he felt unionization would not be necessary if employ-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_83"
      },
      {
        "text": "ees weren’t overwhelmed with work and had more support. Fuller replied",
        "paragraph_id": "para_84"
      },
      {
        "text": "that voting for the union would not guarantee extra hours or more employees.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_85"
      },
      {
        "text": "In the same conversation, Fuller stated that access to free tuition, health",
        "paragraph_id": "para_86"
      },
      {
        "text": "benefits, and a pay bump were “going to be withheld during the time of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_87"
      },
      {
        "text": "negotiations.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_88"
      },
      {
        "text": "2.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_89"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks and the NLRB have two distinctive renditions of the facts",
        "paragraph_id": "para_90"
      },
      {
        "text": "with regard to Untaran’s discharge.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_91"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks claims it fired Untaran because of his poor behavior. He",
        "paragraph_id": "para_92"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 3 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_93"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_94"
      },
      {
        "text": "4",
        "paragraph_id": "para_95"
      },
      {
        "text": "arrived late to work and vaped in the store (violating company policy), claim-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_96",
        "court_paragraph": 4
      },
      {
        "text": "ing “nobody was . . . actually watching so it didn’t matter.” Team members",
        "paragraph_id": "para_97"
      },
      {
        "text": "also complained that Untaran neglected or actively resisted doing typical",
        "paragraph_id": "para_98"
      },
      {
        "text": "work such as cleaning, restocking, and other closing tasks. After multiple",
        "paragraph_id": "para_99"
      },
      {
        "text": "warnings—several verbal and one written—Starbucks terminated him on",
        "paragraph_id": "para_100"
      },
      {
        "text": "July 1, 2022.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_101"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board, on the other hand, asserts that Starbucks unlawfully dis-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_102"
      },
      {
        "text": "charged Untaran based on anti-union animus. The Board recounts the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_103"
      },
      {
        "text": "employees’ months-long efforts to unionize starting in January 2022. Once",
        "paragraph_id": "para_104"
      },
      {
        "text": "the union filed its petition to represent the store’s employees, Starbucks’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_105"
      },
      {
        "text": "managers began to speak individually with employees and seemingly to dis-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_106"
      },
      {
        "text": "courage unionization. On June 22, Fuller spoke to Untaran specifically about",
        "paragraph_id": "para_107"
      },
      {
        "text": "the petition—who, up to that point, had kept his union activity quiet. On",
        "paragraph_id": "para_108"
      },
      {
        "text": "June 28, Untaran joined employees at a coordinated union meeting at the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_109"
      },
      {
        "text": "store with Congressman Tony Cardenas. Four days later, Starbucks fired",
        "paragraph_id": "para_110"
      },
      {
        "text": "Untaran. The Board also claims that Starbucks treated other employees",
        "paragraph_id": "para_111"
      },
      {
        "text": "differently from Untaran, giving them more grace and warnings before",
        "paragraph_id": "para_112"
      },
      {
        "text": "termination.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_113"
      },
      {
        "text": "E. Procedural History",
        "paragraph_id": "para_114"
      },
      {
        "text": "After the July election, a majority of employees voted against union",
        "paragraph_id": "para_115"
      },
      {
        "text": "representation. The union then filed objections on account of Untaran’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_116"
      },
      {
        "text": "termination and because of various statements by managers. The case went",
        "paragraph_id": "para_117"
      },
      {
        "text": "before an administrative law judge (“ALJ”), who ruled against Starbucks on",
        "paragraph_id": "para_118"
      },
      {
        "text": "four charges.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_119"
      },
      {
        "text": "First, the ALJ found Starbucks violated the National Labor Relations",
        "paragraph_id": "para_120"
      },
      {
        "text": "Act (“NLRA”) Section 8(a)(1) twice for statements by employers that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_121"
      },
      {
        "text": "unionization “wouldn’t change the world” and that “there are other jobs",
        "paragraph_id": "para_122"
      },
      {
        "text": "that do offer better pay.” Second, the ALJ found Fuller’s statements rose to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_123"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 4 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_124"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_125"
      },
      {
        "text": "5",
        "paragraph_id": "para_126"
      },
      {
        "text": "the level of an unlawful threat in violation of Section 8(a)(1) when the man-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_127",
        "court_paragraph": 5
      },
      {
        "text": "ager told an employee that the changes in benefits would be put on hold dur-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_128"
      },
      {
        "text": "ing the election. Third, the ALJ found anti-union animus motivated (at least",
        "paragraph_id": "para_129"
      },
      {
        "text": "in part) Untaran’s termination, violating Section 8(a)(1) and (3). This ani-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_130"
      },
      {
        "text": "mus was “inferred” by the timing of Untaran’s firing—just “four days after",
        "paragraph_id": "para_131"
      },
      {
        "text": "he met with the Congressman” and by Starbuck’s treatment of allegedly sim-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_132"
      },
      {
        "text": "ilarly situated employees. Finally, the ALJ found Starbucks fell short of its",
        "paragraph_id": "para_133"
      },
      {
        "text": "burden to show it would have terminated Untaran absent the union activity.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_134"
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB adopted some of the ALJ’s conclusions and reversed",
        "paragraph_id": "para_135"
      },
      {
        "text": "others. The Board agreed that Starbucks violated Section 8(a)(1) when Ful-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_136"
      },
      {
        "text": "ler and Tayarah made comments that the benefits would be “on pause” dur-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_137"
      },
      {
        "text": "ing the election; the union “would not bring better working conditions”; and",
        "paragraph_id": "para_138"
      },
      {
        "text": "that other jobs would offer better pay. The Board also found Starbucks vio-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_139"
      },
      {
        "text": "lated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) by firing Untaran for his union activity. The",
        "paragraph_id": "para_140"
      },
      {
        "text": "Board reversed the ALJ in part, further finding that Starbucks violated Sec-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_141"
      },
      {
        "text": "tion 8(a)(1) based on separate employer statements and the June 22 “coer-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_142"
      },
      {
        "text": "cive interrogation” of Untaran regarding his union support. Finally, the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_143"
      },
      {
        "text": "Board adopted the ALJ’s remedies: reinstatement of Untaran, backpay, com-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_144"
      },
      {
        "text": "pensatory damages, and a new election. This petition for review and cross-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_145"
      },
      {
        "text": "petition for enforcement followed.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_146"
      },
      {
        "text": "II.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_147"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks asks this court to deny enforcement of the Board’s entire",
        "paragraph_id": "para_148"
      },
      {
        "text": "order. In the alternative, it requests relief from the remedy of compensatory",
        "paragraph_id": "para_149"
      },
      {
        "text": "damages and a new election. Starbucks urges that the order of compensation",
        "paragraph_id": "para_150"
      },
      {
        "text": "violates the NLRA and the Constitution (Article III and Seventh Amend-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_151"
      },
      {
        "text": "ment). Starbucks also asks us to vacate the new-election remedy because of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_152"
      },
      {
        "text": "the allegedly “erroneous conclusion that Starbucks wrongfully discharged",
        "paragraph_id": "para_153"
      },
      {
        "text": "Untaran” and because a supermajority of employees voted against",
        "paragraph_id": "para_154"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 5 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_155"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_156"
      },
      {
        "text": "6",
        "paragraph_id": "para_157"
      },
      {
        "text": "unionization.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_158",
        "court_paragraph": 6
      },
      {
        "text": "The judiciary has a limited role in reviewing the NLRB’s decisions.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_159"
      },
      {
        "text": "We “affirm the Board’s conclusions ‘if they have a reasonable basis in the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_160"
      },
      {
        "text": "law and are not inconsistent with the [NLRA].’” Tesla, Inc. v. NLRB,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_161"
      },
      {
        "text": "86 F.4th 640, 647 (2023) (quoting In-N-Out Burger, Inc. v. NLRB, 894 F.3d",
        "paragraph_id": "para_162"
      },
      {
        "text": "707, 714 (5th Cir. 2018) (alteration in original)).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_163"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s factual findings are conclusive if they are “supported by",
        "paragraph_id": "para_164"
      },
      {
        "text": "substantial evidence on the record considered as a whole.” 29 U.S.C.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_165"
      },
      {
        "text": "§ 160(e). We ask whether “a reasonable person could have found what the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_166"
      },
      {
        "text": "ALJ found, even if this court may have reached a different conclusion.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_167"
      },
      {
        "text": "Renew Home Health v. NLRB, 95 F.4th 231, 239 (5th Cir. 2024). “The sub-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_168"
      },
      {
        "text": "stantiality of evidence must take into account whatever in the record fairly",
        "paragraph_id": "para_169"
      },
      {
        "text": "detracts from its weight.” Universal Camera Corp. v. NLRB, 340 U.S. 474,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_170"
      },
      {
        "text": "488 (1951). Therefore, the Board must consider “contradictory evidence or",
        "paragraph_id": "para_171"
      },
      {
        "text": "evidence from which conflicting inferences could be drawn.” Id. at 487.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_172"
      },
      {
        "text": "A. Section 8(a)(1) Coercion",
        "paragraph_id": "para_173"
      },
      {
        "text": "The merits of the Board’s conclusions regarding coercive threats are",
        "paragraph_id": "para_174"
      },
      {
        "text": "mixed. The conclusion that Untaran was coercively interrogated is sup-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_175"
      },
      {
        "text": "ported by substantial evidence.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_176"
      },
      {
        "text": "“An unlawful threat is established under Section 8(a)(1), if under the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_177"
      },
      {
        "text": "totality of the circumstances, an employee could reasonably conclude that the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_178"
      },
      {
        "text": "employer is threatening economic reprisals if the employee supports the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_179"
      },
      {
        "text": "union.” NLRB v. Delta Gas., Inc., 840 F.2d 309, 311 (5th Cir. 1988). An",
        "paragraph_id": "para_180"
      },
      {
        "text": "employer’s predictions about the precise effect unionization will have on the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_181"
      },
      {
        "text": "company must “be carefully phrased on the basis of objective fact to convey",
        "paragraph_id": "para_182"
      },
      {
        "text": "an employer’s belief as to demonstrably probable consequences beyond his",
        "paragraph_id": "para_183"
      },
      {
        "text": "control or to convey a management decision already arrived at.” NLRB v.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_184"
      },
      {
        "text": "Gissel Packing Co., 395 U.S. 575, 618 (1969).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_185"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 6 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_186"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_187"
      },
      {
        "text": "7",
        "paragraph_id": "para_188"
      },
      {
        "text": "1. Coercive Threats Against Sosa",
        "paragraph_id": "para_189",
        "court_paragraph": 7
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB maintains that Fuller’s conversation with Sosa contained",
        "paragraph_id": "para_190"
      },
      {
        "text": "a coercive threat. The Board cites NLRB v. Dothan Eagle, Inc., 434 F.2d 93,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_191"
      },
      {
        "text": "98 (5th Cir. 1970), for the proposition that “whenever the employer by prom-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_192"
      },
      {
        "text": "ises or by course of conduct has made a particular benefit part of the estab-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_193"
      },
      {
        "text": "lished wage or compensation system, then [it] is not at liberty unilaterally to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_194"
      },
      {
        "text": "change this benefit either for better or worse during the union campaign or",
        "paragraph_id": "para_195"
      },
      {
        "text": "during the period of collective bargaining.” Id. The Board further asserts",
        "paragraph_id": "para_196"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Starbucks alludes to but misunderstands the exception to that rule that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_197"
      },
      {
        "text": "allows employers to postpone expected wage or benefit increases to avoid the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_198"
      },
      {
        "text": "appearance of influencing the election’s outcome.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_199"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks responds by urging that the NLRB misapprehends the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_200"
      },
      {
        "text": "issue. Starbucks states that neither the ALJ nor the Board points to evidence",
        "paragraph_id": "para_201"
      },
      {
        "text": "that the pay increase falls into the category of a regularly scheduled wage",
        "paragraph_id": "para_202"
      },
      {
        "text": "increase, dooming the Board’s justification. Furthermore, Starbucks claims",
        "paragraph_id": "para_203"
      },
      {
        "text": "that the NLRB’s approach, when considered with other NLRB precedents,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_204"
      },
      {
        "text": "puts an employer into an impossible bind, where pausing benefits means that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_205"
      },
      {
        "text": "they threatened employees, and, on the other hand, extending promised ben-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_206"
      },
      {
        "text": "efits results in a holding that the employer unlawfully interfered with the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_207"
      },
      {
        "text": "election.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_208"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s conclusion that Fuller threatened Sosa is not supported",
        "paragraph_id": "para_209"
      },
      {
        "text": "by substantial evidence. As Starbucks rightly states, neither the Board nor",
        "paragraph_id": "para_210"
      },
      {
        "text": "the ALJ points to any authority that states that an announced, non-routine,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_211"
      },
      {
        "text": "and unimplemented benefit comes within the scope of an established wage or",
        "paragraph_id": "para_212"
      },
      {
        "text": "compensation system, nor does anything in the record support such a finding.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_213"
      },
      {
        "text": "The ALJ’s asserted reasons are particularly problematic because the ALJ",
        "paragraph_id": "para_214"
      },
      {
        "text": "makes reference only to NLRB cases that deal with routine and regularly",
        "paragraph_id": "para_215"
      },
      {
        "text": "scheduled pay raises.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_216"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 7 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_217"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_218"
      },
      {
        "text": "8",
        "paragraph_id": "para_219"
      },
      {
        "text": "The quoted language in Dothan Eagle reaffirms that point: The rule",
        "paragraph_id": "para_220",
        "court_paragraph": 8
      },
      {
        "text": "applies only to the “established wage or compensation system.” 434 F.2d",
        "paragraph_id": "para_221"
      },
      {
        "text": "at 98 (emphasis added). In justifying the rule, the court in Dothan Eagle",
        "paragraph_id": "para_222"
      },
      {
        "text": "emphasized that the wage-increase policy in question “was widely known",
        "paragraph_id": "para_223"
      },
      {
        "text": "and had been in effect for a considerable period of time. It had thus become",
        "paragraph_id": "para_224"
      },
      {
        "text": "part of the established scheme of compensation and could not be deviated",
        "paragraph_id": "para_225"
      },
      {
        "text": "from for purposes of influencing the vote.” Id. at 99. Read in its proper",
        "paragraph_id": "para_226"
      },
      {
        "text": "context, Dothan Eagle makes it clear that the application of its rule should be",
        "paragraph_id": "para_227"
      },
      {
        "text": "to wage systems that are already in effect and that employees can justifiably",
        "paragraph_id": "para_228"
      },
      {
        "text": "rely on, something which both the Board and the ALJ failed to establish and",
        "paragraph_id": "para_229"
      },
      {
        "text": "the record does not support.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_230"
      },
      {
        "text": "Nothing in the record ties the promised benefits, provided for in the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_231"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks letter and subsequent clarification, to an already established sys-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_232"
      },
      {
        "text": "tem of compensation rather than a bespoke provision of increased benefits.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_233"
      },
      {
        "text": "The “simple but fundamental rule of administrative law that reviewing",
        "paragraph_id": "para_234"
      },
      {
        "text": "courts must judge the propriety of [agency] action solely by the grounds",
        "paragraph_id": "para_235"
      },
      {
        "text": "invoked by the agency” means that the Board’s conclusion cannot stand.1",
        "paragraph_id": "para_236"
      },
      {
        "text": "2. Coercive Threats Against Ramirez and Untaran",
        "paragraph_id": "para_237"
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB asserts that its decision that Ramirez and Untaran were",
        "paragraph_id": "para_238"
      },
      {
        "text": "coercively threatened is supported by substantial evidence. It states that Ful-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_239"
      },
      {
        "text": "ler’s message told the employees they would lose certain benefits through",
        "paragraph_id": "para_240"
      },
      {
        "text": "negotiation. In particular, it claims that Fuller’s conversation with Ramirez",
        "paragraph_id": "para_241"
      },
      {
        "text": "involved an employer’s making a prediction as to the precise effects it be-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_242"
      },
      {
        "text": "lieves unionization will have. It cites Gissel for the proposition that any such",
        "paragraph_id": "para_243"
      },
      {
        "text": "predictions must “be carefully phrased on the basis of objective fact to con-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_244"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_245"
      },
      {
        "text": "1 Calcutt v. FDIC, 598 U.S. 623, 624 (2023) (citation modified); see also Tesla, Inc.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_246"
      },
      {
        "text": "v. NLRB, 120 F.4th 433, 439 n.3 (5th Cir. 2024) (applying Calcutt to the NLRB).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_247"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 8 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_248"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_249"
      },
      {
        "text": "9",
        "paragraph_id": "para_250"
      },
      {
        "text": "vey [the] employer’s belief as to demonstrably probable consequences",
        "paragraph_id": "para_251",
        "court_paragraph": 9
      },
      {
        "text": "beyond [its] control.” 395 U.S. at 618. The NLRB concludes by claiming",
        "paragraph_id": "para_252"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Fuller suggested that Starbucks would adopt a punitive bargaining",
        "paragraph_id": "para_253"
      },
      {
        "text": "strategy, as distinguished from the permissible act of emphasizing the give-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_254"
      },
      {
        "text": "and-take of collective action.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_255"
      },
      {
        "text": "As to Untaran, the NLRB asserts that the Supreme Court has long",
        "paragraph_id": "para_256"
      },
      {
        "text": "held that a unilateral refusal to maintain existing wage and benefit policies",
        "paragraph_id": "para_257"
      },
      {
        "text": "during the collective bargaining period is unlawful. It further contends that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_258"
      },
      {
        "text": "both statements constitute violations, even if they were framed as possible",
        "paragraph_id": "para_259"
      },
      {
        "text": "outcomes, because employees perceive a threat if there is any implication that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_260"
      },
      {
        "text": "an employer may retaliate.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_261"
      },
      {
        "text": "For its part, Starbucks contends that Fuller’s statements to Ramirez",
        "paragraph_id": "para_262"
      },
      {
        "text": "were not coercive because the Board, in reversing the ALJ, took statements",
        "paragraph_id": "para_263"
      },
      {
        "text": "from management that emphatically assert a risk and twisted them into",
        "paragraph_id": "para_264"
      },
      {
        "text": "claims of absolute certainty. Starbucks further emphasizes that Fuller stated",
        "paragraph_id": "para_265"
      },
      {
        "text": "that these benefits could be lost “through negotiations” and that this state-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_266"
      },
      {
        "text": "ment indicates that Fuller was attempting to explain nuances, not threatening",
        "paragraph_id": "para_267"
      },
      {
        "text": "reprisal, meaning no reasonable factfinder could conclude that Fuller threat-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_268"
      },
      {
        "text": "ened reprisal against Ramirez.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_269"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks further contends that Untaran gave two conflicting ac-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_270"
      },
      {
        "text": "counts of Fuller’s statements about benefits, stating both that certain benefits",
        "paragraph_id": "para_271"
      },
      {
        "text": "“were possibly going to be withheld . . . during the negotiations for contracts",
        "paragraph_id": "para_272"
      },
      {
        "text": "with Starbucks and the Union” and that “all of that was going to be withheld",
        "paragraph_id": "para_273"
      },
      {
        "text": "during the time of negotiations.” Starbucks continues by claiming that all",
        "paragraph_id": "para_274"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Fuller communicated was that Starbucks was permitted to extend bene-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_275"
      },
      {
        "text": "fits to nonunionized employees while withholding them from unionizing",
        "paragraph_id": "para_276"
      },
      {
        "text": "employees during bargaining.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_277"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks concludes by asserting that the Board erred by failing to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_278"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 9 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_279"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_280"
      },
      {
        "text": "10",
        "paragraph_id": "para_281"
      },
      {
        "text": "consider the fact that Fuller’s statements did not chill Untaran’s union activ-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_282",
        "court_paragraph": 10
      },
      {
        "text": "ity. Starbucks acknowledges that actual coercion is unnecessary, but it still",
        "paragraph_id": "para_283"
      },
      {
        "text": "asserts that an employee’s subjective response can help determine whether a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_284"
      },
      {
        "text": "reasonable employee would tend to be coerced.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_285"
      },
      {
        "text": "a. Ramirez",
        "paragraph_id": "para_286"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s decision on Ramirez is supported by substantial evidence",
        "paragraph_id": "para_287"
      },
      {
        "text": "because Fuller’s statement left sufficient ambiguity as to Starbucks’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_288"
      },
      {
        "text": "position. As the Board ably pointed out, it is irrelevant whether Fuller used",
        "paragraph_id": "para_289"
      },
      {
        "text": "“could” versus “would” when she talked to Ramirez. Instead, if, under the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_290"
      },
      {
        "text": "totality of the circumstances, a reasonable employee could have conceived of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_291"
      },
      {
        "text": "Fuller’s statement as a coercive threat then there has been a violation.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_292"
      },
      {
        "text": "Although Fuller’s statement could be plausibly understood as highlighting",
        "paragraph_id": "para_293"
      },
      {
        "text": "the give-and-take of negotiation, her statement that the benefits could be lost",
        "paragraph_id": "para_294"
      },
      {
        "text": "“through negotiation,” paired with reference to benefits that were wholly in",
        "paragraph_id": "para_295"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks’s control could be reasonably interpreted as a suggestion that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_296"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks was going to take a punitive bargaining position by threatening",
        "paragraph_id": "para_297"
      },
      {
        "text": "those benefits. Under the substantial evidence standard, that is sufficient to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_298"
      },
      {
        "text": "uphold the Board’s decision.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_299"
      },
      {
        "text": "b. Untaran",
        "paragraph_id": "para_300"
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB’s finding as to Untaran is supported by substantial evi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_301"
      },
      {
        "text": "dence. Fuller’s statements to Untaran can be understood by a reasonable",
        "paragraph_id": "para_302"
      },
      {
        "text": "employee, aware of all of the facts and law, as a coercive threat because the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_303"
      },
      {
        "text": "statement, even if it was probabilistic, still proposed unlawful conduct.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_304"
      },
      {
        "text": "As previously stated, Dothan Eagle stands for the proposition that it is",
        "paragraph_id": "para_305"
      },
      {
        "text": "unlawful to fail to maintain existing wage and benefit policies during a union",
        "paragraph_id": "para_306"
      },
      {
        "text": "election period. The tuition and health benefits were part of existing wage",
        "paragraph_id": "para_307"
      },
      {
        "text": "and benefit policies, as the programs were already established and the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_308"
      },
      {
        "text": "benefits conferred upon Starbucks employees. Therefore, Starbucks would",
        "paragraph_id": "para_309"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 10 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_310"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_311"
      },
      {
        "text": "11",
        "paragraph_id": "para_312"
      },
      {
        "text": "have had no right to withhold those benefits during negotiations. If Fuller",
        "paragraph_id": "para_313",
        "court_paragraph": 11
      },
      {
        "text": "was referring exclusively to the new increases to those programs promised in",
        "paragraph_id": "para_314"
      },
      {
        "text": "the letter, Untaran’s credited testimony does not make that clear.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_315"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks does little to respond, claiming only that Fuller “merely",
        "paragraph_id": "para_316"
      },
      {
        "text": "explained that Starbucks was under no obligation to extend an unimple-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_317"
      },
      {
        "text": "mented pay bump during a union election.” Starbucks’s failure to respond",
        "paragraph_id": "para_318"
      },
      {
        "text": "to Fuller’s statements about tuition and health benefits is telling. Even",
        "paragraph_id": "para_319"
      },
      {
        "text": "assuming arguendo that we would take Untaran’s subjective impression into",
        "paragraph_id": "para_320"
      },
      {
        "text": "account, that cannot overcome the deference owed under the substantial-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_321"
      },
      {
        "text": "evidence standard, especially given that Fuller’s statement plausibly com-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_322"
      },
      {
        "text": "municated that Starbucks would violate the law in response to union activity.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_323"
      },
      {
        "text": "3. Coercive Threats Against Pichardo",
        "paragraph_id": "para_324"
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB asserts that there is substantial evidence to support the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_325"
      },
      {
        "text": "Board’s finding that Tayarah’s statements to Pichardo constituted coercive",
        "paragraph_id": "para_326"
      },
      {
        "text": "threats. The ALJ stated that Tayarah’s statement that the union wouldn’t",
        "paragraph_id": "para_327"
      },
      {
        "text": "improve working conditions was the same as stating that union representa-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_328"
      },
      {
        "text": "tion would be futile and that her statement that there were other jobs implied",
        "paragraph_id": "para_329"
      },
      {
        "text": "that support for the union was incompatible with continued employment.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_330"
      },
      {
        "text": "The NLRB highlights that a warning of futility of organization constitutes a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_331"
      },
      {
        "text": "violation of Section 8(a)(1). It maintains that Tayarah’s statement signified",
        "paragraph_id": "para_332"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Starbucks would refuse to provide the increased support that Pichardo",
        "paragraph_id": "para_333"
      },
      {
        "text": "sought.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_334"
      },
      {
        "text": "In response, Starbucks points to Brown & Root, Inc. v. NLRB, 333 F.3d",
        "paragraph_id": "para_335"
      },
      {
        "text": "628, 634 (5th Cir. 2003), for the proposition that a statement of futility vio-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_336"
      },
      {
        "text": "lates Section 8(a)(1) only if it is accompanied by a threat that the employer",
        "paragraph_id": "para_337"
      },
      {
        "text": "will do something to make union support futile. Starbucks reasons that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_338"
      },
      {
        "text": "Tayarah’s statements contained no such independent threat and cannot",
        "paragraph_id": "para_339"
      },
      {
        "text": "qualify as a violation under Section 8(a)(1). Starbucks continues by claiming",
        "paragraph_id": "para_340"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 11 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_341"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_342"
      },
      {
        "text": "12",
        "paragraph_id": "para_343"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Tayarah’s acknowledgement that other jobs pay better was not a threat",
        "paragraph_id": "para_344",
        "court_paragraph": 12
      },
      {
        "text": "and that the Board’s reading of its caselaw is a per se rule that is counter to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_345"
      },
      {
        "text": "this court’s precedent, which focuses on contextual analysis, not a “magic-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_346"
      },
      {
        "text": "words” rule. Starbucks concludes by arguing that the cases cited by the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_347"
      },
      {
        "text": "NLRB all involved direct invitations to quit or statements threatening dis-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_348"
      },
      {
        "text": "charge, neither of which Tayarah did.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_349"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s decision on futility is not supported by substantial evi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_350"
      },
      {
        "text": "dence, but its decision on Tayarah’s other statement is.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_351"
      },
      {
        "text": "As for the futility argument, Starbucks is correct that Brown & Root",
        "paragraph_id": "para_352"
      },
      {
        "text": "controls. Brown & Root stated that “this Court has only found comments to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_353"
      },
      {
        "text": "be unlawful statements about futility when accompanied by a threat or impli-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_354"
      },
      {
        "text": "cation that the employer will take some action to render union support",
        "paragraph_id": "para_355"
      },
      {
        "text": "futile.” 333 F.3d at 634. That observation determines the outcome here.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_356"
      },
      {
        "text": "Tayarah’s assertion that the union wouldn’t improve working condi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_357"
      },
      {
        "text": "tions is a statement of futility, but there is nothing that indicates that it was",
        "paragraph_id": "para_358"
      },
      {
        "text": "accompanied by a threat that Starbucks itself would do something to render",
        "paragraph_id": "para_359"
      },
      {
        "text": "support futile. Siding with Pichardo on Tayarah’s other statement does not",
        "paragraph_id": "para_360"
      },
      {
        "text": "change this analysis because a reasonable person could find only that the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_361"
      },
      {
        "text": "threat was not a threat to make employees’ “selection of a bargaining repre-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_362"
      },
      {
        "text": "sentative . . . futile” so much as it was a threat of economic reprisal against",
        "paragraph_id": "para_363"
      },
      {
        "text": "Pichardo for her union support. A reasonable person could not conclude",
        "paragraph_id": "para_364"
      },
      {
        "text": "what the Board announced, so the ruling lacks substantial evidence.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_365"
      },
      {
        "text": "Regarding Tayarah’s statement that there were other jobs that offered",
        "paragraph_id": "para_366"
      },
      {
        "text": "better pay, there is substantial evidence to support the Board’s conclusion.2",
        "paragraph_id": "para_367"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_368"
      },
      {
        "text": "2 That being said, the NLRB seems to want to have it both ways, relying on Pichar-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_369"
      },
      {
        "text": "do’s subjective understanding of Tayarah’s statements while disclaiming our ability to do",
        "paragraph_id": "para_370"
      },
      {
        "text": "so in the case of Untaran. This court has not acknowledged the relevance of an employee’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_371"
      },
      {
        "text": "subjective understanding to a Section 8(a)(1) violation, and there is no reason to do so in",
        "paragraph_id": "para_372"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 12 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_373"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_374"
      },
      {
        "text": "13",
        "paragraph_id": "para_375"
      },
      {
        "text": "Although the rule from the Board’s caselaw that finds a Section 8(a)(1) vio-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_376",
        "court_paragraph": 13
      },
      {
        "text": "lation anytime an employer with the power to fire responds to union support",
        "paragraph_id": "para_377"
      },
      {
        "text": "with an invitation to quit sweeps too broadly, such circumstances can often",
        "paragraph_id": "para_378"
      },
      {
        "text": "withstand substantial-evidence review absent countervailing facts. Pichardo",
        "paragraph_id": "para_379"
      },
      {
        "text": "had four previous conversations concerning the union with Fuller before the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_380"
      },
      {
        "text": "meeting with Fuller and Tayarah, two of which involved criticism of unioni-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_381"
      },
      {
        "text": "zation. With those conversations as background, Tayarah’s negativity",
        "paragraph_id": "para_382"
      },
      {
        "text": "toward unionization, and the fact that the statement in question was directly",
        "paragraph_id": "para_383"
      },
      {
        "text": "in response to a request for better wages and working conditions, a reasonable",
        "paragraph_id": "para_384"
      },
      {
        "text": "employee could conclude that Tayarah was threatening economic reprisal for",
        "paragraph_id": "para_385"
      },
      {
        "text": "union support, namely threatening to terminate Pichardo’s employment.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_386"
      },
      {
        "text": "4. Coercive Interrogation Against Untaran",
        "paragraph_id": "para_387"
      },
      {
        "text": "“To determine whether an interaction between an employer and",
        "paragraph_id": "para_388"
      },
      {
        "text": "employee constitutes a coercive interrogation, we examine ‘the totality of the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_389"
      },
      {
        "text": "circumstances in which the interrogation occurred. The relevant inquiry is",
        "paragraph_id": "para_390"
      },
      {
        "text": "whether the questioning tends to be coercive, not whether the employees are",
        "paragraph_id": "para_391"
      },
      {
        "text": "in fact coerced.” Apple, 143 F.4th at 297 (citation modified). We consider",
        "paragraph_id": "para_392"
      },
      {
        "text": "eight factors when analyzing whether an interrogation was coercive:",
        "paragraph_id": "para_393"
      },
      {
        "text": "(1) the background, or history of employer hostility and dis-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_394"
      },
      {
        "text": "crimination; (2) the nature of the information the questioner",
        "paragraph_id": "para_395"
      },
      {
        "text": "seeks; (3) the rank of the questioner in the company hierarchy;",
        "paragraph_id": "para_396"
      },
      {
        "text": "(4) the place and manner of the interrogation; (5) the truthful-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_397"
      },
      {
        "text": "ness of the employee’s reply; (6) whether the employer had a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_398"
      },
      {
        "text": "valid purpose in obtaining the information sought about the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_399"
      },
      {
        "text": "union; (7) whether a valid purpose, if existent, was communi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_400"
      },
      {
        "text": "cated to the employee; and (8) whether the employer assured",
        "paragraph_id": "para_401"
      },
      {
        "text": "the employee that no reprisals would be forthcoming should he",
        "paragraph_id": "para_402"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_403"
      },
      {
        "text": "this case. See also Apple, 143 F.4th at 299 n.26.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_404"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 13 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_405"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_406"
      },
      {
        "text": "14",
        "paragraph_id": "para_407"
      },
      {
        "text": "or she support the union.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_408",
        "court_paragraph": 14
      },
      {
        "text": "Renew Home Health, 95 F.4th at 243 (citation modified). These factors are an",
        "paragraph_id": "para_409"
      },
      {
        "text": "analytical guide, and no single factor is determinative. Id. at 244. Coercion",
        "paragraph_id": "para_410"
      },
      {
        "text": "can be found even where most of the factors favor the employer. Apple,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_411"
      },
      {
        "text": "143 F.4th at 298.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_412"
      },
      {
        "text": "The ALJ originally held that Fuller’s questioning of Untaran was not",
        "paragraph_id": "para_413"
      },
      {
        "text": "a coercive interrogation because Untaran answered truthfully, Fuller was a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_414"
      },
      {
        "text": "first-line supervisor, the conversation occurred in a public area, there was no",
        "paragraph_id": "para_415"
      },
      {
        "text": "history of employer discrimination at this particular store, and Fuller did not",
        "paragraph_id": "para_416"
      },
      {
        "text": "follow up with any coercive statements. The Board reversed, finding that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_417"
      },
      {
        "text": "(1) the conversation took place in the midst of Starbucks’s hostility toward",
        "paragraph_id": "para_418"
      },
      {
        "text": "employees, (2) Fuller made unlawful threats, (3) Fuller sought information",
        "paragraph_id": "para_419"
      },
      {
        "text": "“about core Section 7 rights,” (4) Fuller was Untaran’s direct supervisor,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_420"
      },
      {
        "text": "(5) the back of house was an “especially coercive” place to interrogate con-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_421"
      },
      {
        "text": "sidering that’s where disciplinary meetings and Untaran’s firing occurred,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_422"
      },
      {
        "text": "(6) Untaran did not reply to Fuller’s question completely candidly, and",
        "paragraph_id": "para_423"
      },
      {
        "text": "(7) Fuller did not provide Untaran with any assurances that his answers",
        "paragraph_id": "para_424"
      },
      {
        "text": "would not be used against him. On appeal, the NLRB largely reiterates those",
        "paragraph_id": "para_425"
      },
      {
        "text": "points, adding a series of examples from both inside and outside this circuit",
        "paragraph_id": "para_426"
      },
      {
        "text": "to bolster its claims.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_427"
      },
      {
        "text": "In comparison, Starbucks, relying on its claims from earlier, contends",
        "paragraph_id": "para_428"
      },
      {
        "text": "that Fuller made no statements threatening economic reprisal. Starbucks fur-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_429"
      },
      {
        "text": "ther posits that the information that Fuller sought was innocuous and gen-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_430"
      },
      {
        "text": "eral, given that Fuller did not probe Untaran’s voting intentions, follow up",
        "paragraph_id": "para_431"
      },
      {
        "text": "on Untaran’s answer, or otherwise continue the purported interrogation.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_432"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks continues by claiming that the Board’s point that Fuller was a dir-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_433"
      },
      {
        "text": "ect supervisor improperly skews that factor against the employer in every",
        "paragraph_id": "para_434"
      },
      {
        "text": "case because supervisors are involved in nearly every case of alleged interro-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_435"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 14 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_436"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_437"
      },
      {
        "text": "15",
        "paragraph_id": "para_438"
      },
      {
        "text": "gation. Starbucks moreover asserts that the Board identified no evidence that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_439",
        "court_paragraph": 15
      },
      {
        "text": "the back-of-house was an area that the employees would be intimidated by",
        "paragraph_id": "para_440"
      },
      {
        "text": "and claims that the Board ignored the casual nature of the conversation. It",
        "paragraph_id": "para_441"
      },
      {
        "text": "closes by pointing out that the ALJ found that Untaran answered the question",
        "paragraph_id": "para_442"
      },
      {
        "text": "truthfully, that Fuller had a proper purpose of exercising Starbucks’ right to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_443"
      },
      {
        "text": "discuss unionization with employees, and noting that a failure to disclaim",
        "paragraph_id": "para_444"
      },
      {
        "text": "reprisal alone cannot support a section 8(a)(1) violation.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_445"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s decision is supported by substantial evidence. First, the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_446"
      },
      {
        "text": "NLRB is wrong to insist that asking about union support is always moderately",
        "paragraph_id": "para_447"
      },
      {
        "text": "coercive. As this court stated in Apple, the Board’s “claim that inquiries",
        "paragraph_id": "para_448"
      },
      {
        "text": "about wages or union sentiment are quintessential example[s] of coercive",
        "paragraph_id": "para_449"
      },
      {
        "text": "interrogation sweeps too broadly.” Apple, 143 F.4th at 299 (citation modi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_450"
      },
      {
        "text": "fied). As with the employer in Apple, Starbucks did not commit itself to a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_451"
      },
      {
        "text": "series of interrogations of a variety of employees; instead, this was a one-off",
        "paragraph_id": "para_452"
      },
      {
        "text": "conversation. Unlike in Apple, however, the supervisor here had plausibly",
        "paragraph_id": "para_453"
      },
      {
        "text": "displayed anti-union sentiment and proceeded to make a statement that could",
        "paragraph_id": "para_454"
      },
      {
        "text": "be perceived as an unlawful threat of withholding benefits in the same con-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_455"
      },
      {
        "text": "versation, according to Untaran.3",
        "paragraph_id": "para_456"
      },
      {
        "text": "Second, because Fuller did, in fact, make a statement that could be",
        "paragraph_id": "para_457"
      },
      {
        "text": "perceived as a threat by a reasonable employee, there is some support for a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_458"
      },
      {
        "text": "claim of hostility in the workplace. But one violation of the NLRA does not",
        "paragraph_id": "para_459"
      },
      {
        "text": "lend the same credence or support for a coercive interrogation when com-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_460"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_461"
      },
      {
        "text": "3 There is arguably some daylight between finding a violation of Section 8(a)(1)",
        "paragraph_id": "para_462"
      },
      {
        "text": "and evidence of anti-union sentiment. Because a Section 8(a)(1) violation is taken from the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_463"
      },
      {
        "text": "vantage point of a reasonable employee, it need not say anything about the employer’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_464"
      },
      {
        "text": "actual sentiment toward a union. See Renew Home Health, 95 F.4th at 242 (“The analysis",
        "paragraph_id": "para_465"
      },
      {
        "text": "is framed from the perspective of the employee and is not contingent on either the motiva-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_466"
      },
      {
        "text": "tion behind the remark or its actual effect.” (citation modified)).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_467"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 15 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_468"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_469"
      },
      {
        "text": "16",
        "paragraph_id": "para_470"
      },
      {
        "text": "pared to the example provided by the NLRB.4 Although Fuller had many",
        "paragraph_id": "para_471",
        "court_paragraph": 16
      },
      {
        "text": "conversations with employees about unionization and frequently expressed",
        "paragraph_id": "para_472"
      },
      {
        "text": "her skepticism about unionization, those actions, standing alone, are far",
        "paragraph_id": "para_473"
      },
      {
        "text": "weaker evidence of hostility.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_474"
      },
      {
        "text": "Third, the rank of the questioner favors the NLRB’s interpretation.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_475"
      },
      {
        "text": "As Starbucks itself acknowledges, this consideration matters where, among",
        "paragraph_id": "para_476"
      },
      {
        "text": "other things, the supervisor paired his or her questions “with threats of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_477"
      },
      {
        "text": "reprisal.” Because we found against Starbucks on the issue of coercive",
        "paragraph_id": "para_478"
      },
      {
        "text": "threats with regard to Untaran, this issue is relevant and favors the NLRB’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_479"
      },
      {
        "text": "interpretation, as Fuller was the highest-ranking individual at the store.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_480"
      },
      {
        "text": "Fourth, the location favors Starbucks: The NLRB’s description of the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_481"
      },
      {
        "text": "back-of-house is belied by the evidence, especially as to Untaran. The back",
        "paragraph_id": "para_482"
      },
      {
        "text": "of the house was where Untaran broke Starbucks rules and vaped, and the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_483"
      },
      {
        "text": "ALJ described it as a “public place,” a point the Board does not reject.5 The",
        "paragraph_id": "para_484"
      },
      {
        "text": "Board’s characterization of the back of the house as an intimidating is based",
        "paragraph_id": "para_485"
      },
      {
        "text": "on a claim that that is where Fuller holds disciplinary meetings, but it does",
        "paragraph_id": "para_486"
      },
      {
        "text": "not engage with contrary evidence that indicates that Untaran felt comforta-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_487"
      },
      {
        "text": "ble in the back of the house, nor does the Board point to any evidence that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_488"
      },
      {
        "text": "suggests that, at the time of the conversation, Untaran, in particular, would",
        "paragraph_id": "para_489"
      },
      {
        "text": "have been intimidated by the location.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_490"
      },
      {
        "text": "Fifth, Starbuck’s defense of Fuller’s purpose falls apart when the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_491"
      },
      {
        "text": "employer’s intention is unclear, as is the case here. In Delco-Remy Division,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_492"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_493"
      },
      {
        "text": "4 See, e.g., NLRB v. Birdsall, 487 F.2d 288, 291 (5th Cir. 1973) (“In view of the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_494"
      },
      {
        "text": "totality of the circumstances surrounding the systematic interrogations of employees regard-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_495"
      },
      {
        "text": "ing their union sympathies the Board could properly conclude that the employer vio-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_496"
      },
      {
        "text": "lated § 8(a)(1) of the Act.”).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_497"
      },
      {
        "text": "5 See Apple, 143 F.4th at 298 (finding no coercion when, amongst other points,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_498"
      },
      {
        "text": "interrogation occurred in a public place.).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_499"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 16 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_500"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_501"
      },
      {
        "text": "17",
        "paragraph_id": "para_502"
      },
      {
        "text": "General Motors Corp. v. NLRB, 596 F.2d 1295, 1311 (5th Cir. 1979), we said",
        "paragraph_id": "para_503",
        "court_paragraph": 17
      },
      {
        "text": "that no statement of purpose or assurance that there would be no reprisal was",
        "paragraph_id": "para_504"
      },
      {
        "text": "required “when it is apparent from the circumstances . . . that the interro-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_505"
      },
      {
        "text": "gation is for an innocent purpose and that the questions do not otherwise",
        "paragraph_id": "para_506"
      },
      {
        "text": "convey a veiled threat of reprisal.” Id.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_507"
      },
      {
        "text": "The situation described in Delco-Remy is different from the one in",
        "paragraph_id": "para_508"
      },
      {
        "text": "which Untaran found himself, given that Fuller’s question about Union sup-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_509"
      },
      {
        "text": "port was bracketed by a statement acknowledging the filing of a unionization",
        "paragraph_id": "para_510"
      },
      {
        "text": "petition and the importance of voting on that petition, on the front end, and",
        "paragraph_id": "para_511"
      },
      {
        "text": "what could be reasonably construed as a threat of economic reprisal via",
        "paragraph_id": "para_512"
      },
      {
        "text": "withheld benefits, on the back end. Under such circumstances, the failure to",
        "paragraph_id": "para_513"
      },
      {
        "text": "reassure the employee of an innocent purpose or a lack of retaliation is rele-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_514"
      },
      {
        "text": "vant and favors the NLRB’s interpretation.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_515"
      },
      {
        "text": "Sixth, the truthfulness of Untaran’s reply cuts in favor of Starbucks,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_516"
      },
      {
        "text": "as he was not particularly evasive in his answer. Though the Board accurately",
        "paragraph_id": "para_517"
      },
      {
        "text": "points out that Untaran’s answer is not “completely candid,” insofar as he",
        "paragraph_id": "para_518"
      },
      {
        "text": "does not answer the question “how do you feel about unionization” directly",
        "paragraph_id": "para_519"
      },
      {
        "text": "and stridently, the fact that his answer still provided Fuller with some indi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_520"
      },
      {
        "text": "cation that he supports the union cuts against a finding of a coercive interro-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_521"
      },
      {
        "text": "gation, though it is not dispositive on that point.6",
        "paragraph_id": "para_522"
      },
      {
        "text": "There is substantial evidence to support the Board’s conclusion.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_523"
      },
      {
        "text": "Though there are factors that cast doubt on its analysis, those factors are not",
        "paragraph_id": "para_524"
      },
      {
        "text": "so detrimental to render it impossible for “a reasonable person [to find] what",
        "paragraph_id": "para_525"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_526"
      },
      {
        "text": "6 NLRB v. Brookshire Grocery Co., 919 F.2d 359, 367–68 (5th Cir. 1990) (“While it",
        "paragraph_id": "para_527"
      },
      {
        "text": "is true that Brookshire was conducting the interviews on its own premises and that its",
        "paragraph_id": "para_528"
      },
      {
        "text": "employees answered the questions truthfully, it does appear that there was substantial evi-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_529"
      },
      {
        "text": "dence to support the Board’s finding that Brookshire had coercively interrogated its",
        "paragraph_id": "para_530"
      },
      {
        "text": "employees . . . .”).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_531"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 17 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_532"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_533"
      },
      {
        "text": "18",
        "paragraph_id": "para_534"
      },
      {
        "text": "the ALJ found.” Renew Home Health, 95 F.4th at 239.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_535",
        "court_paragraph": 18
      },
      {
        "text": "B. Untaran’s Termination for Union Activity",
        "paragraph_id": "para_536"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board erred in concluding that Starbucks terminated Untaran’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_537"
      },
      {
        "text": "employment for union activity. Starbucks asserts that the ALJ’s conclusion",
        "paragraph_id": "para_538"
      },
      {
        "text": "regarding animus and the ALJ’s finding that Starbucks wouldn’t have ter-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_539"
      },
      {
        "text": "minated Untaran without animus lack substantial evidence. Starbucks is cor-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_540"
      },
      {
        "text": "rect that the ALJ’s animus determination lacks substantial evidence.7",
        "paragraph_id": "para_541"
      },
      {
        "text": "To succeed in proving that an employee was unlawfully terminated",
        "paragraph_id": "para_542"
      },
      {
        "text": "under Section 8(a)(1) “the General Counsel must show, by a preponderance",
        "paragraph_id": "para_543"
      },
      {
        "text": "of the evidence, that [1] the employee was engaging in protected activity,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_544"
      },
      {
        "text": "[2] the employer had knowledge of the activity, [3] adverse action was taken",
        "paragraph_id": "para_545"
      },
      {
        "text": "against the employee, and [4] the activity was a motivating factor in the deci-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_546"
      },
      {
        "text": "sion to discharge the employee.” NLRB v. Arkema, Inc., 710 F.3d 308, 320–",
        "paragraph_id": "para_547"
      },
      {
        "text": "21 (5th Cir. 2013). The company may then prove an affirmative defense that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_548"
      },
      {
        "text": "it would have fired the employee regardless of the protected activity. Cordua",
        "paragraph_id": "para_549"
      },
      {
        "text": "Rests., Inc. v. NLRB, 985 F.3d 415, 423–24 (5th Cir. 2021).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_550"
      },
      {
        "text": "“For an adverse employment decision to constitute unlawful discrim-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_551"
      },
      {
        "text": "ination under section 8(a)(3), anti-union animus must be shown to have been",
        "paragraph_id": "para_552"
      },
      {
        "text": "a motivating factor in the employer’s decision.” Tellepsen Pipeline Servs. Co.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_553"
      },
      {
        "text": "v. NLRB, 320 F.3d 554, 565 (5th Cir. 2003). Though, in the Fifth Circuit, a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_554"
      },
      {
        "text": "“section 8(a)(1) violation does not require a showing of anti-union animus”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_555"
      },
      {
        "text": "because the ALJ advances that theory only with respect to the prima facie case",
        "paragraph_id": "para_556"
      },
      {
        "text": "and the Board does not explicitly modify that, we are bound to decide this",
        "paragraph_id": "para_557"
      },
      {
        "text": "part of the case on that basis.8",
        "paragraph_id": "para_558"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_559"
      },
      {
        "text": "7 We decline to reach the subsidiary issue of whether the ALJ erred in finding that",
        "paragraph_id": "para_560"
      },
      {
        "text": "Starbucks wouldn’t have terminated Untaran absent anti-union animus.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_561"
      },
      {
        "text": "8 Valmont Indus., Inc. v. NLRB, 244 F.3d 454, 463 (5th Cir. 2001); see generally id.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_562"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 18 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_563"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_564"
      },
      {
        "text": "19",
        "paragraph_id": "para_565"
      },
      {
        "text": "The ALJ focused exclusively on the timing of the discharge and the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_566",
        "court_paragraph": 19
      },
      {
        "text": "treatment of comparators when determining that anti-union animus existed",
        "paragraph_id": "para_567"
      },
      {
        "text": "for purposes of the prima facie case. The ALJ’s analysis cannot support a",
        "paragraph_id": "para_568"
      },
      {
        "text": "finding against Starbucks because his comparator analysis is faulty and with-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_569"
      },
      {
        "text": "out it, the ALJ’s conclusion relies exclusively on timing in contravention of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_570"
      },
      {
        "text": "our decision in Arkema. “[A]n inference of union animus based upon dispar-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_571"
      },
      {
        "text": "ate treatment can be made if the only difference between two differently",
        "paragraph_id": "para_572"
      },
      {
        "text": "treated employees is the illegitimate criteria at issue (i.e., union activity).”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_573"
      },
      {
        "text": "Asarco, Inc. v. NLRB, 86 F.3d 1401, 1408 (5th Cir. 1996) (citation modified).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_574"
      },
      {
        "text": "The comparators picked out by the ALJ do not fit that criterion.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_575"
      },
      {
        "text": "The ALJ claims that AP received “two consecutive final warnings,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_576"
      },
      {
        "text": "then two consecutive written warnings” before being fired, contradicting",
        "paragraph_id": "para_577"
      },
      {
        "text": "Tayarah’s and Fuller’s claim that termination was required after a final writ-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_578"
      },
      {
        "text": "ten warning. That was wrong, because AP was terminated after one final",
        "paragraph_id": "para_579"
      },
      {
        "text": "warning, something that the NLRB now acknowledges. Additionally, the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_580"
      },
      {
        "text": "actual conduct in question differed as well. At the bare minimum, it is undis-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_581"
      },
      {
        "text": "puted that Untaran vaped in the back of the store on two separate occasions,",
        "paragraph_id": "para_582"
      },
      {
        "text": "was tardy twice, and had to receive verbal coaching on June 13. In compari-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_583"
      },
      {
        "text": "son, AP had several tardies, two dress code violations, and an argument with",
        "paragraph_id": "para_584"
      },
      {
        "text": "a coworker before termination. The tardies are obviously similar in kind, but",
        "paragraph_id": "para_585"
      },
      {
        "text": "whether two dress code violations and an argument with another employee",
        "paragraph_id": "para_586"
      },
      {
        "text": "equal two violations of the tobacco policy and a verbal coaching is far from",
        "paragraph_id": "para_587"
      },
      {
        "text": "obvious; the ALJ did nothing to explain away those differences.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_588"
      },
      {
        "text": "Those differences make AP a poor fit as a comparator because the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_589"
      },
      {
        "text": "only difference between her and Untaran is not the illegitimate criterion of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_590"
      },
      {
        "text": "_____________________",
        "paragraph_id": "para_591"
      },
      {
        "text": "(collapsing a section 8(a)(1) and 8(a)(3) analysis); Calcutt, 598 U.S. at, 624 (“It is ‘a simple",
        "paragraph_id": "para_592"
      },
      {
        "text": "but fundamental rule of administrative law’ that reviewing courts ‘must judge the propriety",
        "paragraph_id": "para_593"
      },
      {
        "text": "of [agency] action solely by the grounds invoked by the agency.’”).",
        "paragraph_id": "para_594"
      },
      {
        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 19 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
        "paragraph_id": "para_595"
      },
      {
        "text": "No. 24-60651",
        "paragraph_id": "para_596"
      },
      {
        "text": "20",
        "paragraph_id": "para_597"
      },
      {
        "text": "union activity. Additionally, the use of AP as a comparator undermines the",
        "paragraph_id": "para_598",
        "court_paragraph": 20
      },
      {
        "text": "notion that the timing of Untaran’s firing was suspect, as the time between",
        "paragraph_id": "para_599"
      },
      {
        "text": "firing and those infractions cited in the notice of separation was two to three",
        "paragraph_id": "para_600"
      },
      {
        "text": "weeks, a timeframe similar to Untaran’s firing.",
        "paragraph_id": "para_601"
      },
      {
        "text": "As to NQ, she received a written warning for insulting her coworkers",
        "paragraph_id": "para_602"
      },
      {
        "text": "multiple times on the same day; she had previously been coached with",
        "paragraph_id": "para_603"
      },
      {
        "text": "relation to the mobile devices policy. Unlike both AP and Untaran, NQ did",
        "paragraph_id": "para_604"
      },
      {
        "text": "not engage in an extensive pattern of poor behavior; instead, the primary",
        "paragraph_id": "para_605"
      },
      {
        "text": "violation occurred on a single day. Id. Consequently, there are differences",
        "paragraph_id": "para_606"
      },
      {
        "text": "between NQ and Untaran other than the illegitimate criterion of union activ-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_607"
      },
      {
        "text": "ity, making the ALJ’s reliance on NQ inappropriate. All of those facts are",
        "paragraph_id": "para_608"
      },
      {
        "text": "sufficient to justify discounting the ALJ’s comparator analysis.9",
        "paragraph_id": "para_609"
      },
      {
        "text": "The Board’s defense of the disparate-treatment justification is un-",
        "paragraph_id": "para_610"
      },
      {
        "text": "availing for reasons already discussed, and its insistence on the importance of",
        "paragraph_id": "para_611"
      },
      {
        "text": "timing fails because the ALJ’s comparator analysis fails. As we stated in",
        "paragraph_id": "para_612"
      },
      {
        "text": "Arkema, 710 F.3d at 323, “timing alone . . . is not substantial evidence.”",
        "paragraph_id": "para_613"
      },
      {
        "text": "Because the record does not support the use of either comparator, the only",
        "paragraph_id": "para_614"
      },
      {
        "text": "portion of the analysis that remains as a basis for concluding that the ALJ’s",
        "paragraph_id": "para_615"
      },
      {
        "text": "finding was supported by substantial evidence is the timing of Untaran’s",
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        "text": "Footnote five states, in response to a request by the General Counsel to over-",
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        "text": "rule a case, that because “there is ample direct evidence of respondent’s ani-",
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        "text": "9 See Dish Network Corp. v. NLRB, 953 F.3d 370, 377 (5th Cir. 2020), as revised",
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        "text": "(Mar. 24, 2020) (“Even if that conclusion could be supported by the portions of the record",
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        "text": "cited by the Board, we held the Board lacked substantial evidence merely because it failed",
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        "text": "to grapple with countervailing portions of the record.”).",
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        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 20 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
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        "text": "No. 24-60651",
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        "text": "21",
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        "text": "mus as to employee Untaran’s union activity—there is no need to resort to a",
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        "text": "pretext analysis in determining whether animus is present.” That conclusion",
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        "text": "is bereft of analysis of what the direct evidence of anti-union animus is or how",
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        "text": "that direct evidence demonstrates anti-union animus; it still provides no evi-",
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        "text": "dence that either the Board or the ALJ relied on Section 8(a)(1) in inferring",
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        "text": "animus; and lastly it is actually focused on a pretext analysis, something that",
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        "text": "the ALJ scarcely engaged with. See Electrolux Home Prods., Inc., 368 NLRB",
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      {
        "text": "No. 34 (2019). The ALJ’s determination was not supported by substantial",
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        "text": "evidence, so enforcement is denied.10",
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        "text": "III. Union Election Remedy",
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        "text": "The NLRB avers that we do not have jurisdiction to review its order",
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        "text": "for a second election. It is correct.",
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        "text": "with an unfair labor practice proceeding, the Board’s decision in the repre-",
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        "text": "Coca-Cola Bottling Co., 740 F.2d 398, 405 (5th Cir. 1984). Great Western",
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        "text": "Coca-Cola Bottling Company controls the outcome here, given that No. 31-",
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        "text": "Case: 24-60651 Document: 137-1 Page: 21 Date Filed: 06/23/2026",
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